they wanted societal change so the reason why you have universal free healthcare throughout all of europe is because the european unions in the 40s said we don't want this just for our members, we want this for everybody. everybody has got to have -- >> jennifer: which is really the history of the u.s. labor movement was too. that's what those laws were in the 20s and 30s to provide universal 40-hour workweek and we don't have child labor laws. that's true. i would say unions have an opportunity globally especially in countries that are now growing, like china to be able to level the playing field a little bit. but in addition to unions organizing the unorganized, what about people who are not in a union who are watching this and feel discouraged, like you feel in a way, but what can we do to push back against that? >> yeah i hope i don't sound too discouraged i'm just mad -- >> jennifer: you are revving up so you are starting to sound better. >> well, it was just heart breaking listening to your description of what happened to my town sitting here. but listen if you are watching this at